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Team stats
East Carolina
Tulane
316
Total yards
312
286
Passing yards
246
56
Rushing yards
76
8.1
Yards per pass
6.4
1.9
Yards per rush
2.1
20
First downs
16
3–10
Third downs
8–19
1–1
Fourth downs
1–2
5
Turnovers
2
7–60
Penalties
5–35
15:59
Possession
20:41
Efficiency
East Carolina
Tulane
42%
Success rate
34%
0.02
EPA per play
−0.14
0.90
Explosiveness
0.76
−0.16
Rushing EPA
−0.34
0.14
Passing EPA
0.03
40%
Passing-down success
31%
−0.33
First-down EPA
−0.53
0.36
Second-down EPA
−0.19
0.28
Third-down EPA
0.70
3%
Havoc by its defense
2%
From CollegeFootballData.com: each offense’s efficiency, and the havoc each defense caused. The better side of each line is bold.
Before kickoff
Our ratings going in
Our ratings (scores only)
East Carolina 68% to win. Elo’s favorite won.
Every drive
Solid bars scored; an outline in the other team’s color marks points the defense scored. Tulane drives left to right, East Carolina right to left.
Q1 TulaneInterception, 13 plays, 48 yards
Q1 East CarolinaPunt, 3 plays, −5 yards
Q1 TulanePunt, 5 plays, 15 yards
Q1 East CarolinaPunt, 3 plays, 7 yards
Q1 TulanePunt, 3 plays, −1 yard
Q1 East CarolinaInterception, 5 plays, 8 yards
Q2 TulaneDefensive TD, 4 plays (East Carolina scores), 6 yards
Q2 East CarolinaResult not recorded, 10 yards
Q2 TulanePunt, 6 plays, 17 yards
Q2 East CarolinaPunt, 3 plays, 2 yards
Q2 TulaneTurnover on downs, 10 plays, 54 yards
Q2 East CarolinaFumble, 4 plays, 8 yards
Q2 TulaneTouchdown run, 3 plays, 10 yards
Q2 East CarolinaMissed FG, 7 plays, 36 yards
Q2 TulaneEnd of half, 0 yards
Q3 East CarolinaTouchdown run, 10 plays, 49 yards
Q3 TulaneTouchdown pass, 5 plays, 60 yards
Q3 East CarolinaTouchdown pass, 4 plays, 68 yards
Q3 TulaneTouchdown run, 7 plays, 69 yards
Q3 East CarolinaFumble, 3 plays, 1 yard
Q3 TulaneField goal, 8 plays, 20 yards
Q4 East CarolinaPunt, 5 plays, 20 yards
Q4 TulanePunt, 3 plays, 5 yards
Q4 East CarolinaFumble, 6 plays, 10 yards
Q4 TulanePunt, 3 plays, 1 yard
Q4 East CarolinaTouchdown pass, 9 plays, 80 yards
Q4 TulaneInterception, 6 plays, 12 yards
Q4 East CarolinaEnd of game, 1 play, −3 yards
Play by play
1st quarter6 drives, then Tied at 0
Tulane Interception, 13 plays
14:20
1st & 10 at own 20
Andre Anderson rush for a loss of 1 yard to the Tulan 19.
14:00
2nd & 11 at own 19
Andre Anderson rush for 8 yards to the Tulan 27.
13:40
3rd & 3 at own 27
Kevin Moore pass complete to Jeremy Williams for 6 yards to the Tulan 33 for a 1ST down.
13:00
1st & 10 at own 33
Kevin Moore pass complete to Andre Anderson for a loss of 4 yards to the Tulan 29.
9:25
2nd & 14 at own 29
Kevin Moore pass complete to Chris Dunn for 8 yards to the Tulan 37.
11:40
3rd & 6 at own 37
Kevin Moore pass complete to Andre Anderson for 8 yards to the Tulan 45 for a 1ST down.
11:20
1st & 10 at own 45
Andre Anderson rush for a loss of 1 yard to the Tulan 44.
10:20
2nd & 11 at own 44
Kevin Moore sacked by Quentin Cotton for a loss of 5 yards to the Tulan 39.
10:05
3rd & 16 at own 39
Kevin Moore pass complete to Chris Dunn for 17 yards to the ECaro 44 for a 1ST down.
9:25
1st & 10 at opp 44
Andre Anderson rush for 5 yards to the ECaro 39.
8:00
2nd & 5 at opp 39
Jordan Stephany rush for 1 yard to the ECaro 38.
8:00
3rd & 4 at opp 38
Kevin Moore pass complete to Brian King for 6 yards to the ECaro 32 for a 1ST down.
8:00
1st & 10 at opp 32
Kevin Moore pass intercepted by Quentin Cotton at the ECaro 32, returned for 19 yards to the Tulan 49.
East Carolina Punt, 3 plays
7:52
1st & 10 at opp 49
Patrick Pinkney pass incomplete to Jamar Bryant.
7:20
2nd & 10 at opp 49
Brandon Simmons rush for no gain to the Tulan 49.
7:07
3rd & 10 at opp 49
Patrick Pinkney pass incomplete to Davon Drew.
7:07
4th & 10 at opp 49
East Carolina penalty 5 yard illegal procedure accepted.
6:58
4th & 15 at own 46
Matt Dodge punt for 54 yards for a touchback.
Tulane Punt, 5 plays
6:45
1st & 10 at own 20
Andre Anderson rush for 6 yards to the Tulan 26.
6:05
2nd & 4 at own 26
Kevin Moore pass complete to Justin Kessler for 3 yards to the Tulan 29.
6:05
3rd & 1 at own 29
East Carolina penalty 5 yard offside defense accepted.
4:50
1st & 10 at own 34
Andre Anderson rush for 1 yard to the Tulan 35.
4:10
2nd & 9 at own 35
Andre Anderson rush for no gain to the Tulan 35.
4:03
3rd & 9 at own 35
Kevin Moore pass incomplete to Andre Anderson.
3:54
4th & 9 at own 35
Ross Thevenot punt for 46 yards, fair catch by Darryl Freeney at the ECaro 19.
East Carolina Punt, 3 plays
3:30
1st & 10 at own 19
Jonathan Williams rush for a loss of 3 yards to the ECaro 16.
3:10
2nd & 13 at own 16
Patrick Pinkney pass incomplete to Jamar Bryant.
3:10
3rd & 13 at own 16
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Jonathan Williams for 10 yards to the ECaro 26.
2:16
4th & 3 at own 26
Matt Dodge punt for 38 yards, returned by Casey Robottom for no gain to the Tulan 36.
Tulane Punt, 3 plays
2:16
1st & 10 at own 36
Kevin Moore pass complete to Jeremy Williams for a loss of 17 yards, fumbled, recovered by Tulan at the Tulan 19.
2:16
2nd & 27 at own 19
Andre Anderson rush for no gain to the Tulan 19.
2:16
3rd & 27 at own 19
Kevin Moore pass complete to Jeremy Williams for 16 yards, fumbled, recovered by Tulan Kasey Stelly at the Tulan 35.
0:40
4th & 11 at own 35
Ross Thevenot punt for 43 yards out-of-bounds.
East Carolina Interception, 5 plays
0:40
1st & 10 at own 22
East Carolina penalty 11 yard illegal block accepted.
0:40
1st & 10 at own 11
Brandon Simmons rush for 3 yards to the ECaro 14.
0:00
2nd & 7 at own 14
Brandon Simmons rush for 9 yards to the ECaro 23 for a 1ST down.
Q2 14:51
1st & 10 at own 23
Brandon Simmons rush for 6 yards to the ECaro 29.
Q2 14:15
2nd & 4 at own 29
Dwayne Harris rush for 1 yard to the ECaro 30.
Q2 13:53
3rd & 3 at own 30
Patrick Pinkney pass intercepted by Reggie Scott at the ECaro 35, returned for no gain to the ECaro 35.
2nd quarter7 drives, then Tied at 7
Tulane Defensive TD, 4 plays (East Carolina scores)
13:40
1st & 10 at opp 35
Andre Anderson rush for 3 yards to the ECaro 32.
13:00
2nd & 7 at opp 32
Andre Anderson rush for 3 yards to the ECaro 29.
12:28
3rd & 4 at opp 29
Kevin Moore pass incomplete.
12:16
4th & 4 at opp 29
Ross Thevenot 46 yard field goal GOOD, Quentin Cotton for 44 yards, to the Tulan 0 for a TOUCHDOWN.East Carolina 6, Tulane 0
12:16
Matt Dodge extra point GOOD.East Carolina 7, Tulane 0
12:16
Matt Dodge kickoff for 62 yards returned by Jeremy Williams for 25 yards to the Tulan 33.
Tulane Punt, 6 plays
12:02
1st & 10 at own 33
Kevin Moore pass incomplete to Michael Batiste.
11:56
2nd & 10 at own 33
Kevin Moore pass incomplete.
11:35
3rd & 10 at own 33
Kevin Moore pass complete to Michael Batiste for 10 yards to the Tulan 43 for a 1ST down.
11:16
1st & 10 at own 43
Kevin Moore pass incomplete to Cody Sparks.
10:55
2nd & 10 at own 43
Andre Anderson rush for no gain to the Tulan 43.
9:57
3rd & 10 at own 43
Kevin Moore pass complete to Cody Sparks for 7 yards to the 50 yard line.
9:57
4th & 3 at the 50
Ross Thevenot punt for 50 yards for a touchback.
East Carolina Punt, 3 plays
9:30
1st & 10 at own 20
Patrick Pinkney rush for a loss of 3 yards to the ECaro 17.
9:00
2nd & 13 at own 17
Patrick Pinkney rush for 11 yards to the ECaro 28.
9:00
3rd & 2 at own 28
Patrick Pinkney sacked by Josh Lumar for a loss of 6 yards to the ECaro 22.
7:51
4th & 8 at own 22
Matt Dodge punt for 34 yards, returned by Casey Robottom for no gain to the Tulan 44.
Tulane Turnover on downs, 10 plays
7:20
1st & 10 at own 44
Andre Anderson rush for a loss of 3 yards to the Tulan 41.
7:13
2nd & 13 at own 41
Kevin Moore pass incomplete, broken up by Quentin Cotton.
7:13
3rd & 13 at own 41
Tulane penalty 5 yard false start accepted.
6:20
3rd & 18 at own 36
Andre Anderson rush for 2 yards to the Tulan 38.
6:34
4th & 16 at own 38
East Carolina penalty 15 yard personal foul accepted, no play.
6:27
1st & 10 at opp 47
Kevin Moore pass incomplete to Jeremy Williams.
6:20
2nd & 10 at opp 47
Andre Anderson rush for 12 yards to the ECaro 35 for a 1ST down.
5:40
1st & 10 at opp 35
Kevin Moore pass complete to Jeremy Williams for 31 yards to the ECaro 4 for a 1ST down.
5:20
1st & goal at opp 4
Andre Anderson rush for 3 yards to the ECaro 1.
4:38
2nd & goal at opp 1
Andre Anderson rush for a loss of 2 yards to the ECaro 3.
4:10
3rd & goal at opp 3
Andre Anderson rush for 2 yards to the ECaro 1.
3:32
4th & goal at opp 1
Andre Anderson rush for a loss of 1 yard to the ECaro 2.
East Carolina Fumble, 4 plays
3:10
1st & 10 at own 2
Brandon Simmons rush for 2 yards to the ECaro 4.
2:27
2nd & 8 at own 4
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Darryl Freeney for 9 yards to the ECaro 13 for a 1ST down.
2:27
1st & 10 at own 13
Patrick Pinkney pass incomplete to Dwayne Harris.
2:22
2nd & 10 at own 13
Brandon Simmons rush for 1 yard, fumbled, recovered by Tulan Evan Lee at the ECaro 10.
Tulane Touchdown run, 3 plays
2:14
1st & goal at opp 10
Andre Anderson rush for 5 yards to the ECaro 5.
1:25
2nd & goal at opp 5
Andre Anderson rush for 4 yards to the ECaro 1.
0:59
3rd & goal at opp 1
Andre Anderson rush for 1 yard for a TOUCHDOWN.East Carolina 7, Tulane 6
2:22
Ross Thevenot extra point GOOD.Tied at 7
0:59
Ross Thevenot kickoff for 62 yards out-of-bounds.
East Carolina Missed FG, 7 plays
0:45
1st & 10 at own 40
Patrick Pinkney sacked by Reggie Scott for a loss of 11 yards to the ECaro 29.
0:29
2nd & 21 at own 29
Patrick Pinkney rush for 6 yards to the ECaro 35.
0:22
3rd & 15 at own 35
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Davon Drew for 16 yards to the Tulan 49 for a 1ST down.
0:16
1st & 10 at opp 49
Timeout EAST CAROLINA, clock 00:16.
0:13
1st & 10 at opp 49
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Jamar Bryant for 14 yards to the Tulan 35 for a 1ST down.
0:07
1st & 10 at opp 35
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Jamar Bryant for 8 yards to the Tulan 27.
0:07
2nd & 2 at opp 27
Timeout EAST CAROLINA, clock 00:07.
0:07
2nd & 2 at opp 27
Timeout TULANE, clock 00:07.
0:03
2nd & 2 at opp 27
Brandon Simmons rush for 3 yards to the Tulan 24 for a 1ST down.
0:03
1st & 10 at opp 24
Timeout EAST CAROLINA, clock 00:03.
0:00
1st & 10 at opp 24
Matt Dodge 42 yard field goal MISSED.
Q3 15:00
Ross Thevenot kickoff for 62 yards returned by Dwayne Harris for 43 yards to the Tulan 49.
3rd quarter6 drives, then Tied at 21
East Carolina Touchdown run, 10 plays
14:35
1st & 10 at opp 49
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Davon Drew for 9 yards to the Tulan 40.
14:00
2nd & 1 at opp 40
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Brandon Simmons for 4 yards to the Tulan 36 for a 1ST down.
13:25
1st & 10 at opp 36
Dwayne Harris rush for 6 yards to the Tulan 30.
12:45
2nd & 4 at opp 30
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Jamar Bryant for 4 yards to the Tulan 26 for a 1ST down.
12:15
1st & 10 at opp 26
Jonathan Williams rush for 7 yards to the Tulan 19.
11:52
2nd & 3 at opp 19
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Dwayne Harris for 7 yards to the Tulan 12 for a 1ST down.
11:05
1st & 10 at opp 12
Brandon Simmons rush for 1 yard to the Tulan 11.
10:35
2nd & 9 at opp 11
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Dwayne Harris for 8 yards to the Tulan 3.
10:35
3rd & 1 at opp 3
Jonathan Williams rush for no gain to the Tulan 3.
9:55
4th & 1 at opp 3
Brandon Simmons rush for 3 yards for a TOUCHDOWN.East Carolina 14, Tulane 7
9:55
Ben Ryan extra point GOOD.
9:55
Matt Dodge kickoff for 62 yards out-of-bounds.
Tulane Touchdown pass, 5 plays
9:20
1st & 10 at own 40
Andre Anderson rush for 4 yards to the Tulan 44.
9:05
2nd & 6 at own 44
Kevin Moore pass complete to Andre Anderson for 3 yards to the Tulan 47.
8:40
3rd & 3 at own 47
Kevin Moore pass complete to Cody Sparks for 6 yards to the ECaro 47 for a 1ST down.
8:13
1st & 10 at opp 47
Kevin Moore pass incomplete to Brian King.
8:04
2nd & 10 at opp 47
Kevin Moore pass complete to Jeremy Williams for 47 yards for a TOUCHDOWN.East Carolina 14, Tulane 13
8:04
Ross Thevenot extra point GOOD.Tied at 14
8:04
Ross Thevenot kickoff for 48 yards returned by Jonathan Williams for 10 yards to the ECaro 32.
East Carolina Touchdown pass, 4 plays
7:35
1st & 10 at own 32
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Norman Whitley for 1 yard to the ECaro 33.
7:15
2nd & 9 at own 33
Norman Whitley rush for 5 yards to the ECaro 38.
6:40
3rd & 4 at own 38
Tulane penalty 5 yard pass interference on Josh Lumar accepted, no play.
6:30
1st & 10 at own 43
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Brandon Simmons for 11 yards to the Tulan 46 for a 1ST down.
6:30
1st & 10 at opp 46
East Carolina penalty 5 yard false start accepted.
5:45
1st & 15 at own 49
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Norman Whitley for 51 yards for a TOUCHDOWN.East Carolina 20, Tulane 14
5:45
Ben Ryan extra point GOOD.East Carolina 21, Tulane 14
5:45
Matt Dodge kickoff for 39 yards.
Tulane Touchdown run, 7 plays
5:36
1st & 10 at own 31
Kevin Moore pass complete to Jeremy Williams for 50 yards to the ECaro 19 for a 1ST down.
5:09
1st & 10 at opp 19
Kevin Moore pass incomplete.
5:00
2nd & 10 at opp 19
Andre Anderson rush for a loss of 1 yard to the ECaro 20.
4:13
3rd & 11 at opp 20
Kevin Moore pass complete to Jeremy Williams for 10 yards to the ECaro 10.
3:56
4th & 1 at opp 10
Kevin Moore rush for 3 yards to the ECaro 7 for a 1ST down.
3:25
1st & goal at opp 7
Andre Anderson rush for 6 yards to the ECaro 1.
2:51
2nd & goal at opp 1
Andre Anderson rush for 1 yard for a TOUCHDOWN.East Carolina 21, Tulane 20
2:51
Ross Thevenot extra point GOOD.Tied at 21
2:51
Ross Thevenot kickoff for 50 yards returned by Jonathan Williams for 10 yards to the ECaro 30.
East Carolina Fumble, 3 plays
2:38
1st & 10 at own 30
Patrick Pinkney pass incomplete to Jamar Bryant.
2:30
2nd & 10 at own 30
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Dwayne Harris for 11 yards to the ECaro 41 for a 1ST down.
2:04
1st & 10 at own 41
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Brandon Simmons for a loss of 10 yards, fumbled, recovered by Tulan at the ECaro 31.
Tulane Field goal, 8 plays
1:25
1st & 10 at opp 31
Andre Anderson rush for 1 yard to the ECaro 30.
1:12
2nd & 9 at opp 30
Andre Anderson rush for 13 yards to the ECaro 17 for a 1ST down.
0:41
1st & 10 at opp 17
Andre Anderson rush for a loss of 1 yard to the ECaro 18.
0:10
2nd & 11 at opp 18
Kevin Moore pass complete to Jordan Stephany for 12 yards to the ECaro 6 for a 1ST down.
Q4 14:56
1st & goal at opp 6
Kevin Moore pass incomplete to Justin Kessler.
Q4 14:56
2nd & 0 at opp 6
Timeout TULANE, clock 14:56.
Q4 14:51
2nd & goal at opp 6
Andre Anderson rush for no gain to the ECaro 6.
Q4 14:51
3rd & 0 at opp 6
Tulane penalty 5 yard false start accepted.
Q4 14:05
3rd & goal at opp 11
Andre Anderson rush for no gain to the ECaro 11.
Q4 13:40
4th & goal at opp 11
Ross Thevenot 28 yard field goal GOOD.Tulane 24, East Carolina 21
Q4 13:40
Ross Thevenot kickoff for 70 yards for a touchback.
4th quarter7 drives, then East Carolina 28, Tulane 24
East Carolina Punt, 5 plays
13:25
1st & 10 at own 20
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Dwayne Harris for 8 yards to the ECaro 28.
13:25
2nd & 2 at own 28
East Carolina penalty 10 yard holding accepted, no play.
12:35
2nd & 12 at own 18
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Dwayne Harris for 25 yards to the ECaro 43 for a 1ST down.
12:14
1st & 10 at own 43
Patrick Pinkney pass incomplete to Jamar Bryant.
12:08
2nd & 10 at own 43
Patrick Pinkney pass incomplete to T.J. Lee.
12:08
3rd & 10 at own 43
Patrick Pinkney sacked by Evan Lee for a loss of 3 yards to the ECaro 40.
11:27
4th & 13 at own 40
Matt Dodge punt for 60 yards for a touchback.
Tulane Punt, 3 plays
11:15
1st & 10 at own 20
Andre Anderson rush for 5 yards to the Tulan 25.
9:27
2nd & 5 at own 25
Kevin Moore sacked for a loss of 5 yards to the Tulan 20.
9:40
3rd & 10 at own 20
Andre Anderson rush for 5 yards to the Tulan 25.
9:27
4th & 5 at own 25
Ross Thevenot punt for 58 yards, returned by Darryl Freeney for 9 yards to the ECaro 26.
East Carolina Fumble, 6 plays
9:22
1st & 10 at own 26
Patrick Pinkney pass incomplete to Dwayne Harris.
9:05
2nd & 10 at own 26
Jonathan Williams rush for 6 yards to the ECaro 32.
8:42
3rd & 4 at own 32
Timeout TULANE, clock 08:42.
8:25
3rd & 4 at own 32
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Jamar Bryant for 9 yards to the ECaro 41 for a 1ST down.
7:56
1st & 10 at own 41
Dwayne Harris sacked for a loss of 2 yards to the ECaro 39.
7:20
2nd & 12 at own 39
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Davon Drew for 1 yard to the ECaro 40.
6:39
3rd & 11 at own 40
Patrick Pinkney sacked for a loss of 4 yards, fumbled, recovered by Tulan Julian Shives-Sams at the ECaro 36.
Tulane Punt, 3 plays
6:30
1st & 10 at opp 36
Andre Anderson rush for 1 yard to the ECaro 35.
5:57
2nd & 9 at opp 35
Kevin Moore pass incomplete to Andre Anderson.
5:53
3rd & 9 at opp 35
Kevin Moore pass incomplete.
5:46
4th & 9 at opp 35
Ross Thevenot punt for 35 yards for a touchback.
East Carolina Touchdown pass, 9 plays
5:38
1st & 10 at own 20
Patrick Pinkney rush for 10 yards to the ECaro 30 for a 1ST down.
5:46
1st & 10 at own 30
East Carolina penalty 5 yard false start accepted.
4:57
1st & 15 at own 25
Patrick Pinkney pass incomplete.
4:32
2nd & 15 at own 25
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Darryl Freeney for 27 yards to the Tulan 48 for a 1ST down.
4:15
1st & 10 at opp 48
Patrick Pinkney rush for 14 yards to the Tulan 34 for a 1ST down.
3:55
1st & 10 at opp 34
Patrick Pinkney rush for a loss of 4 yards to the Tulan 38.
2:45
2nd & 14 at opp 38
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Dwayne Harris for 13 yards to the Tulan 25.
2:34
3rd & 1 at opp 25
Patrick Pinkney rush for 1 yard to the Tulan 24 for a 1ST down.
2:00
1st & 10 at opp 24
Brandon Simmons rush for no gain to the Tulan 24.
1:41
2nd & 10 at opp 24
Patrick Pinkney pass complete to Jamar Bryant for 24 yards for a TOUCHDOWN.East Carolina 28, Tulane 24
1:41
Ben Ryan extra point GOOD.
1:41
Matt Dodge kickoff for 70 yards returned by Jeremy Williams for 22 yards to the ECaro 30, Tulane penalty 10 yard illegal block accepted.
Tulane Interception, 6 plays
1:29
1st & 10 at own 12
Kevin Moore pass incomplete.
1:15
2nd & 10 at own 12
Kevin Moore pass complete to Andre Anderson for 5 yards to the Tulan 17.
0:58
3rd & 5 at own 17
Kevin Moore pass complete to Andre Anderson for 17 yards to the Tulan 34 for a 1ST down.
0:48
1st & 10 at own 34
Tulane penalty 10 yard holding accepted, no play.
0:41
1st & 20 at own 24
Kevin Moore pass complete to Jeremy Williams for no gain to the Tulan 24.
0:35
2nd & 20 at own 24
Kevin Moore pass incomplete to Andre Anderson.
0:28
3rd & 20 at own 24
Kevin Moore pass intercepted by Pierre Bell at the Tulan 47, returned for no gain to the Tulan 47.
East Carolina End of game, 1 play
0:00
1st & 10 at opp 47
Team rush for a loss of 3 yards to the 50 yard line.
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